and it is clear that you definitely do, mate.



-----Original Message-----
From: Sherrard, Cameron [mailto:cameron.sherrard§sap.com]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 8:59 PM
To: 'dns§lists.auda.org.au'
Subject: RE: [DNS] FW: [Oz ISP] The lovely folk at ING


Well, as a board member along with other organisations.

Anyway, it still seems you add no value.

-----Original Message-----
From: Cyrille Lefevre [mailto:ginger-fish§scifi-art.com]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 7:38 PM
To: dns§lists.auda.org.au
Subject: RE: [DNS] FW: [Oz ISP] The lovely folk at ING


Hey Cameron !!

Sorry mate, i didn't know you worked at ING yourself ( apparently this list
harbors spam terrorists ), ah well i understand your reaction now .. hey cam
dude, what's the difference between "proposing new products" and "imposing
new products" ?

Cheers mate !

Ginger



-----Original Message-----
From: Karl Schaffarczyk [mailto:karl§schaffarczyk.info]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 3:48 PM
To: dns§lists.auda.org.au
Subject: Re: [DNS] FW: [Oz ISP] The lovely folk at ING


>Quoting Sherrard, Cameron on Monday February 18, 2002:
>|
>| You don't add anything educational or informative to this list except "I
>| think we should kick their ass BIG time" and then you go on to say
"anyone
>| got a plan ?". Are you a leader or a follower ?
>| It seems at least ING have their own ideas, their own iniatives and it
>seems
>| the first to introduce new products into the Australian market - The
>| foundation of a business I would think. Does that make them one of the
>| leaders or the followers in the marketplace ?
>
>While I agree the other poster didn't really have anything of value to
>say, I don't think companies that raid the AUNIC database and use it to
>send deceptive renewal notices, or even other commercial material, are
>innovative or defensible.
>
>kim


Whilst I have thought about running such marketing campaigns several
years ago, my conscience won't allow it. Which leaves me wondering if
good conscience and what people label 'innovative' and 'defensible' go
together, or shall never meet.

Regards
Karl
=8)



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