Ginger/Cyril/Whatever, You know, you truly are ignorant. Here I am, travelling around over the next 2 weeks meeting people who are actually interested in the DNS, who are prepared to make an effort, who are prepared to engage in debate without resorting to personal attacks and childish invective, and I have to put up with your paranoid, meaningless ramblings. Apparently, auDA is a 'boys club', I play 'the hero' and earn a 'huge salary'. You clearly don't have a clue and do not understand that 9 times out of 10 it is the empty vessel that makes the most noise. Grow up. Get your facts straight. Learn how to engage in sensible, meaningful debate. When you have done that, you will have earned the right to have a conversation with me about responsibility. Until then, don't expect to be taken seriously. Chris Disspain CEO - auDA ceo§auda.org.au www.auda.org.au -----Original Message----- From: Ginger FISH [mailto:ginger-fish§scifi-art.com] Sent: Monday, 13 May 2002 23:44 To: dns§lists.auda.org.au Subject: RE: [DNS] When will auDA take responsibility ? *yawns* I hope you feel better now, John. Sarcasm perhaps, but if you know anything about me it should be that i NEVER make baseless accusations. Ginger -----Original Message----- From: Jon Lawrence [mailto:jon§jonlawrence.com] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 11:40 PM To: dns§lists.auda.org.au Subject: RE: [DNS] When will auDA take responsibility ? excuse me? Getting a bit touchy aren't we? The king of sarcasm and baseless accusations himself can give a lot but can't take even a harmless one-liner... Lets revisit a couple of things you've posted to this list today: (1) you make an accusation that the members of the auDA Code of Conduct committee are "raiders or rapists"...very constructive comment indeed (not sure if anyone from that committee wants to seek legal advice on Cyrille's comment. I think I would if it was directed at me). (2) You claim that "Legislation is needed and the .au administration people certainly don't deserve their (huge) salaries for turning an entire industry into CHAOS." What huge salaries? What chaos? You may not be aware but this industry has come a long way since the condition it was in before you came to our shores last year. I don't think comments like this add anything to the discussion and simply help to marginalise your comments more than perhaps they should be. I think that many people on this list agree with many of the points you make (myself included) however you smother it all in such a barrage of unconstructive invective that it gets a little hard to take at times. I suggest you have a cup of tea, a becks and a good lie down and consider your posts more fully before making any more baseless accusations. You are welcome to smear me all you like if you think it advances your cause. I really don't care and I've got nothing to hide. kind regards jon >-- Original Message -- >Reply-To: dns§lists.auda.org.au >From: "Ginger FISH" <ginger-fish§scifi-art.com> >To: <dns§lists.auda.org.au> >Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 23:03:28 +1000 >Subject: RE: [DNS] When will auDA take responsibility ? > > >Jon, it's nice to know that with attitudes like yours this industry is a >joke. > >BTW: By your own admission you dragged enough data out of melbourne it when >you left to last you a lifetime should you ever decide to become an infamous >scammer or venture into blackmail. > >Watch your mouth Jon. > >Ginger > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jon Lawrence [mailto:jon§jonlawrence.com] >Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 10:56 PM >To: dns§lists.auda.org.au >Subject: RE: [DNS] When will auDA take responsibility ? > > >I rest easy knowing you're going to save us all, cyrille... > > >>-- Original Message -- >>Reply-To: dns§lists.auda.org.au >>From: "Ginger Fish" <ginger-fish§scifi-art.com> >>To: <dns§lists.auda.org.au> >>Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 22:24:04 +1000 >>Subject: RE: [DNS] When will auDA take responsibility ? >> >> >>Jon, >> >>>If you really think legislation is the answer then why are you wasting >your >>>time on this mailing list instead of lobbying appropriate politicians? >> >>It's on the way. >>Watch this space. >> >>Ginger >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Jon Lawrence [mailto:jon§jonlawrence.com] >>Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 10:25 PM >>To: dns§lists.auda.org.au >>Subject: RE: [DNS] When will auDA take responsibility ? >> >> >>Hey Cyrille >> >>If you really think legislation is the answer then why are you wasting >your >>time on this mailing list instead of lobbying appropriate politicians? >> >>And exactly what legislation are you proposing? >> >>rgds >>jon >> >> >>>-- Original Message -- >>>Reply-To: dns§lists.auda.org.au >>>From: "Ginger Fish" <ginger-fish§scifi-art.com> >>>To: <dns§lists.auda.org.au> >>>Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 21:39:43 +1000 >>>Subject: [DNS] When will auDA take responsibility ? >>> >>> >>>ACCC & ING..... Until the eleventh hour ING were still an "Accredited >>>Registrar". >>>Correct me if i'm wrong, but shouldn't auDA at least "attempt" to protect >>>Australian consumers? >>>The state of .au administration is nothing short of baffling. The COC >>>Committee, nothing short of a farce. >>> >>>Rod Keys of DDNS on the COC Committee whilst sending out deceptive >>>unsolicited renewal notices to .au registrants. >>> >>>NetRegistry (After ripping off the entire aunic database) have a >>>representative on the COC Committee. >>> >>>Peter Dean, auDA Director, continues to promote ways "around" the .com.au >>>allocation policy on his website www.aunic.com.au and continues to promote >>>"popular generic domains" such as ".com-au.net" >>> >>>Internet Registrations Australia continue on their merry way. >>> >>>It's got to be a boys club Dave, short of saying it's a useless >>>administration, there's no other explanation. >>> >>>Australian domain name administration is a joke. The sad thing is >>>Australian consumers continuously keep getting burnt. >>> >>>Is this "self regulation" at it's best? If it is it clearly isn't >working, >>>certainly not for the benefit of the average Australian consumer. >>> >>>Wake up and smell the roses auDA. A self regulated industry/admin >>harbouring >>>scammers? Why of course - this is the au administration after all. One >>>would expect no less. >>> >>>They do as they please. >>> >>>They ignore warnings. >>> >>>They get away with it all and laugh in our faces. >>>They never did anything to warn consumers but post a little alert on their >>>little site nobody visits. >>> >>>They promised they would get Melbourne IT to send a mass warning, but >oh >>>after we learn it is not possible ( they probably don't know how such >>things >>>work, after all they're lawyers, they're not not supposed to know how >to >>>use >>>a computer ). >>> >>>The only thing we saw was Chris Disspain playing "Daddy the Hero" after >>much >>>pressure from the people that really care. >>> >>>You might say : >>>"Ginger, why don't you come yourself in the comitees smoking cigars and >>>talking shit with us ?" >>>No thank you, after a while of hanging around with you guys people might >>>think i am a scammer myself. >>> >>>Legislation is needed and the .au administration people certainly don't >>>deserve their (huge) salaries for turning an entire industry into CHAOS. >>> >>>The problem is we are ALL Australian consumers and in one respect or >>another >>>we are all affected and that is simply un acceptable. >>> >>> >>>Ginger >>> >>> >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- - >- >>>List policy, unsubscribing and archives => >http://www.auda.org.au/list/dns/ >>>Please do not retransmit articles on this list without permission of the >>> >>>author, further information at the above URL. 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