RE: [DNS] Nomination for auDA board.

RE: [DNS] Nomination for auDA board.

From: Ron Stark <ronstark§snapsite.com.au>
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:01:16 +1000
There are around 320 000 .com.au's registered, out of some 3.5M ABNs
registered, ergo 10% penetration of the available market.

TLDs are saturated - there are so many .COMs that it's near impossible
to come up with a new name.  They therefore have no option but to add
new TLDs.  Here in Australia we have such a low penetration that it's
folly (imho) to come up with more 2LDs - particularly in the expectation
that it will somehow increase demand.

My point, though, is purely a business one - why expend effort to create
a tiny closed market when there's already a huge open one already
waiting to be developed.

Ron

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deus Ex Machina [mailto:vicc&#167;cia.com.au] 
> Sent: Friday, 26 September 2003 3:38 PM
> To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> Subject: Re: [DNS] Nomination for auDA board.
> 
> 
> 
> you are not talking in facts but opinions. my impression is 
> there is quite a bit of name clash which spils over into 
> .net.au and .com, while I couldnt quantify it is a lot more then .005%
> 
> but thats not the point, the point is more choice is a good thing. 
> gtld are not sitting still they are adding tlds which is 
> taking $$s out of australia.
> 
> Vic
> 
> Ron Stark [ronstark&#167;snapsite.com.au] wrote:
> > ... to which the obvious question is what proportion of the 
> available 
> > market do they represent?  It's simply not good business to 
> invest in 
> > developing a market for .005% when there is 90% to be had.
> > 
> > Ron
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Deus Ex Machina [mailto:vicc&#167;cia.com.au]
> > > Sent: Friday, 26 September 2003 3:20 PM
> > > To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> > > Subject: Re: [DNS] Nomination for auDA board.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > what about business whose prefered domains are taken?
> > > 
> > > Vic
> > > 
> > > Ron Stark [ronstark&#167;snapsite.com.au] wrote:
> > > > My mantra - there are perhaps 10% of businesses 
> entities that are
> > > > eligible to have a .com.au domain name, who actually have 
> > > one.  Coming
> > > > up with a new variant on 2LD's is tantamount to suggesting that
> > > > devising a new business type (say CC as well as Pty Ltd) is 
> > > suddenly
> > > > going to increase the number of businesses registered.
> > > > 
> > > > It's a nonsense, of course.
> > > > 
> > > > Equally, there wasn't exactly a rush to register 
> .id.au's either.
> > > > 
> > > > The core issue is the need to give potential 
> registrants a (valid)
> > > > reason to have a domain name in the first place.  
> > > Introducing new name
> > > > types does nothing except degrade the whole domain name 
> business.
> > > > 
> > > > Ron Stark
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Jason Pay [mailto:jasonpay&#167;au1.ibm.com]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, 26 September 2003 1:46 PM
> > > > > To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> > > > > Subject: Re: [DNS] Nomination for auDA board.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > >> What are your opinions on opening up the name space?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >fewer restrictions. ability to register xyz.au and more 2LD's
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Vic
> > > > > 
> > > > > I would agree that there should be fewer restrictions, the 
> > > > > impacts reducing restrictions would have to be taken into 
> > > > > account though.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ability to register xyz.au would be great but is it a
> > > good idea on a
> > > > > logistical level? If someone registered xyz.au and then sold
> > > > > thousands of 
> > > > > subdomains, then the xyz.au company goes under, all the sub 
> > > > > domain people 
> > > > > effected would be jumping over the auDA. With this in mind, 
> > > > > if there was 
> > > > > the facility to register xyz.au the requirements would have 
> > > > > to be very 
> > > > > high, close to ausregistry level id expect.
> > > > > 
> > > > > More 2LD's? If a proposal is made and it addresses all policy 
> > > > > criteria and I agree with the proposal I'd vote for 
> when it came 
> > > > > up at
> > > the board
> > > > > meeting. IMO there's no reason not to add more 2LD's, I
> > > guess if the
> > > > > demand is there, new 2LD's will be created.
> > > > > 
> > > > > In the same ballpark though, I would push the 'power of 
> > > > > attorney' issue.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Jason Pay
> > > > > Midrange Administrator: AIX LINUX
> > > > > IBM Global Services
> > > > > jasonpay&#167;au.ibm.com
> > > > > +61 (0)2 61242137
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Deus Ex Machina <vicc&#167;cia.com.au>
> > > > > 26/09/2003 01:16 PM
> > > > > Please respond to dns
> > > > > 
> > > > >  
> > > > >         To:     dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> > > > >         cc: 
> > > > >         Subject:        Re: [DNS] Nomination for auDA board.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Jason Pay [jasonpay&#167;au1.ibm.com] wrote:
> > > > > > >what exactly are your views? where do you stand on
> > > opening up the
> > > > > > >name
> > > > > > spaces for instance?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Vic
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Can you clarify what you mean by "opening up the name
> > > spaces" are
> > > > > > you referring to current restrictions on namespaces?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > In any case, its not just my opinion that counts I would 
> > > > > > solicit
> > > > > comments
> > > > > > from this list and wherever else I can find them, and try
> > > > > and push the
> > > > > > consensus view.
> > > > > > I would have to make judgments based on where the
> > > > > opinions/views were
> > > > > > coming from, and I would do so without bias.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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