FW: [DNS] Advertising on AUNIC - Competitive neutrality?

FW: [DNS] Advertising on AUNIC - Competitive neutrality?

From: Michael <michael§mediakinetix.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:22:12 +1000
Chris Disspain,

Chris, I sent the following over two weeks ago in response to your reply
(following) regarding the numerous complaints that hinged around  some of
Auda's recent decisions on the administration of it's services.

Before we lose the spotlight, which appears to be headed towards Mr. Elz,
how about we use the opportunity to address what would appear to be common
ground anyhow for a number of related issues, especially given his recent
With regard to the AUNIC site for instance, you said you would be making
changes to the way the banner ads appear, yet on arrival to Aunic the
branded banner add happens to carry the same wording as the title of the
page. " Registration Services"  intimates that the advertised company
directly beneath this wording is an official provider of these services.
That would of course be the perception, if one happened to be purely a
member of the public. No matter how anyone tries to spin doctor this
arrangement, it will still insight conflict. Conflict I am sure not even
Winston Churchill himself would be able to avert.

I think at the very least, the importance of this matter is deserving of a
response. You say you are willing to publish the outcome of any upcoming
discussions with Mr.Elz. If that is to be true, why not provide some
transparency on the details of the agreement in place with the host firm you
are using to host for AUDA?    It's all about keeping an even keel isn't it?

Michael Verga

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael [mailto:michael&#167;mediakinetix.com]
Sent: Friday, 20 July 2001 5:46 PM
To: dns&#167;auda.org.au
Subject: RE: [DNS] Advertising on AUNIC - Competitive neutrality?

I don't know whether this has occurred to you Chris but every provider
within the Industry also happens to be a member of the Public. If you choose
to use the lack of complaints from the " Public", well; You tell me Chris,
because now I may be wrong, but what could those to whom you are
conveniently referring  have to complain about ?

 Why would you need to draw another element into this discussion anyway?  It
is not just the public who need to know AUNIC is 100% secure.
 In fairness to all concerned, it is completely inappropriate that NR
should be put in this position, especially in the event of a serious

Clearly you are affected by the complaints you are receiving, otherwise you
wouldn't try to deflect this matter onto the ignorance of the " Public".

As for your assertion/assumption that said complaints are understandably
coming from jealous competitors: These are your thoughts, not necessarily
those of others.
NR should be applauded for their success in being able to orchestrate such a
manouvre; the lack of foresight and discretion on AUDAs part is what I
There should never have been a tender process, period.

AUDA elected to take on this responsibilty to begin with, one wonders
whether AUDA would have ever won this right had it come to light that the
responsibility would be one day "farmed out" to a private firm (private firm
= an entity or individual who is not a self regulating body and acting in
its own interests not the public's - and not singularly NR.)

So really there are no threads. There is one issue. AUDA took on the initial
responsibilty to act as the host.  If the current AUDA admin couldn't
fulfill its initial committment in its entirety, then the roles of the
administrators themselves should be questioned.  In fairness to the public.

In good faith

Michael Verga

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Disspain [mailto:ceo&#167;auda.org.au]
Sent: Friday, 20 July 2001 2:08 PM
To: dns&#167;auda.org.au
Subject: RE: [DNS] Advertising on AUNIC - Competitive neutrality?

Thanks Bruce. I echo those acknowledgements.

It seems to me that there are several threads wrapped up together here.

Firstly, the fact that NR is hosting (that is hosting not running) AUNIC for
auDA is the result of an open tender process. Amazingly, now that people in
the industry know the results they come forward to say that they could have
done the same thing  Fine, but they didn't submit a tender did they. This is
similar to now objecting to the Competition Panel's proposed model but not
having bothered to make a submission to the panel before it produced its

Interestingly many of the same people who complained (loudly) about the
slowness and unreliability of AUNIC prior to the migration are also the ones
now complaining about the present situation. Churchill was right. There are
some people one can never satisfy.

The second issue is NetRegistry running "ads" on AUNIC. All the tenders
submitted were assessed and NetRegistry's was deemed to be the best. The key
is that AUNIC operates in a stable environment in an efficient and effective
manner. auDA's  role is set out in it's Constitution and includes "to
maintain and promote the operational stability and utility of the .au ccTLD
and to ensure a cost effective administration of the .au ccTLD and its
sub-domains". These are the main priorities upon which auDA operates. A
decision was made that the proposal put by NetRegistry was the best given
auDA's aims and priorities.

auDA is not an industry trade union or an industry protection body. It
operates for the benefit of the public. Now, I may be wrong, but as far as
I'm aware, I have received no complaints from members of the public about
NR's logo appearing on AUNIC. All complaints appear to be from competitors
and whilst I understand why such people would complain the reality is that
our main objective is to  operate a stable and efficient AUNIC not to
protect industry players.

Finally, a technical issue has been raised regarding the use of banner ads
by NetRegistry. I agree with some of the comments that have been made in
this respect and we are in the process of changing the way in which the logo
appears on AUNIC. I hope to have this finalised within a day or two.


Chris Disspain
CEO - auDA

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Tonkin [mailto:Bruce.Tonkin&#167;melbourneit.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 20 July 2001 11:06
To: 'dns&#167;auda.org.au'
Subject: RE: [DNS] Advertising on AUNIC - Competitive neutrality?

Just as a follow up to Larry Bloch's message.

There may be some misconceptions about Melbourne IT's involvement in this
tender, especially with the statement in the Netregistry press release.  (ie
"NetRegistry wins contract against fierce competition, including Melbourne

Like NetRegistry, Melbourne IT also offered to host AUNIC for no charge in
response to the RFT tender.  The tender was released in May 2000, and the
AUNIC was migrated over to NetRegistry on 3 June 2001.  As auDA took a long
time to respond to the original tender respondents, Melbourne IT eventually
WITHDREW its offer due to the heavy load on production and development staff
in our growing international operations.  I don't know who else may have
responded to the auDA tender.

Note also that Melbourne IT provided considerable assistance at no charge
during the migration of AUNIC from Telstra to NetRegistry, especially with
regard to testing and debugging the usual problems that result from such a
move.  I understand that other registrars (e.g Robert Elz) gave advice to
auDA during the migration.  Cybersource (David Keegel and Con Zymaris) also
put a substantial effort (beyond the call of duty) into the migration.

So I would like to publicly thank all those how assisted in moving AUNIC to
its new location, and acknowledge the generosity of NetRegistry in providing
the hosting for AUNIC.

I hope others will recognise that it was a true industry cooperative effort
to improve the service levels of AUNIC, and not the result of any one

Bruce Tonkin
Chief Technology Officer
Melbourne IT

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