Hello Ian,

I believe that Jo Lim will publish minutes from the meeting shortly.

Regards,
Bruce Tonkin


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Johnston [mailto:ian.johnston§infobrokers.com.au]
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 6:01 PM
> To: dns§auda.org.au
> Subject: RE: [DNS] Urgent Call for public meeting
> 
> 
> What was the outcome of the meeting please?
> 
> ~~~~~~
> Ian Johnston, Policy Consultant
> Small Enterprise Telecommunications Centre Limited (SETEL)
> PO Box 58   Jamison   ACT   2614   Australia
> 02 6253 0869 (B)   02 6251 7835 (F)   0413 990 112 (M)
> www.setel.com.au   mailto:ian.johnston§setel.com.au
> 
> SETEL is a national association advancing and representing
> the interests of Australian small businesses as consumers of
> telecommunications and electronic commerce.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ron Stark [mailto:ronstark§businesspark.com.au]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:30 AM
> > To: dns§auda.org.au
> > Subject: FW: [DNS] Urgent Call for public meeting
> >
> >
> > To everybody who called and otherwise contacted me off line on
> > this subject
> > - your support is great.  Jo, thanks for arranging the meeting.
> >
> > For everybody on the list, the meeting is on Friday 05 Oct, 14h30
> > - 17h00 at
> > Maddock Lonie & Chisolm, 140 William Street.
> >
> > According to the information on auDA's site, IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT
> > YOU EMAIL
> > JO at jo.lim§auda.org.au, telling her of your intention to attend -
> > otherwise you will be excluded from participation.
> >
> > I suspect that this will be the ONLY chance you'll get to 
> have a say, so
> > it's vitally important that we all rally for this meeting.
> >
> >
> > Ron Stark
> > Business Park Pty Ltd
> > mail: ronstark§businesspark.com.au
> > tel: +61 (0)3 9592 6895   fax: +61 (0)3 9591 0729
> > mob: +61 (0)41 812 9922
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ron Stark [mailto:ronstark§businesspark.com.au]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2001 2:01 PM
> > To: dns§auda.org.au
> > Subject: [DNS] Urgent Call for public meeting
> >
> >
> > As an auDA member (yet to be ratified) I have to say that 
> we're NOT HAPPY
> > with what's being rushed through by auDA, for whatever reason.
> > And I think
> > that we're probably typical of a whole swag of domain name 
> resellers out
> > there, who should be fearful for their businesses if our 
> concerns are
> > anything to go by.  Some examples:
> >
> > *	We have only 2 days in which to comment on the complex draft
> > registrar agreement, but NO opportunity to discuss concerns 
> we have.  We,
> > for one, received no notification of its release.  This is
> > inexcusably short
> > for such a crucial issue that will directly affect us all.
> > *	Any auDA impositions on their registrars are foisted on us
> > resellers, yet we've had no input into their composition or content.
> > *	There is NO obligation on auDA to develop or publish a Code of
> > Practice.
> > *	What references there are to any Code of Practice make 
> no measurable
> > or enforceable provision for recourse or punitive action in 
> the event of
> > non-compliance.
> > *	The issue of SPAM is inadequately addressed
> > *	There is no obligation on registrars to resolve (only to
> > investigate) or act on complaints from us or our collective clients
> > *	No criteria are given whereby reseller agreements can 
> be terminated
> > - only a directive from auDA.  Hair colour, perhaps?  We 
> resellers have no
> > recourse or appeal mechanism.
> > *	auDa acknowledges that it acts "for the benefit of the 
> Australian
> > public", yet their actions and indecent haste are excluding 
> imput by that
> > very public they purport to serve.
> > *	There are no provisions to protect registrars, we resellers or
> > registrants (our customers) against vested interests or conflict
> > of interest
> > by auDA officials and/or auDA service providers.
> > *	Where is the transparancy of process that an 
> organisation owes, and
> > is obligated to provide, its members?
> >
> > Our concerns are considerably heightened by recent (and not 
> so recent)
> > examples of abuse and predatory business practice of which 
> several members
> > complained, but against which auDA and Melbourne IT were apparently
> > powerless to act.  By the way, we are STILL waiting on auDA's
> > reponse to our
> > specific question in this reard.
> >
> > We see nothing in the draft agreement that will improve our 
> already weak
> > situation - indeed, we see our collective ability for recourse
> > against shady
> > business practice, and abuse of improperly obtained 
> information, being
> > weakened still further.
> >
> > We are deeply concerned, and I would like to call a public 
> meeting to be
> > held in the next 48 hours (say 10h00 Friday), to get these and
> > other issues
> > on the table WHILE WE STILL HAVE THE CHANCE.  Let's not emasculate
> > ourselves, and our customers, through apathy.
> >
> > Your expressions of interest PLEASE.
> >
> >
> > Ron Stark
> > Business Park Pty Ltd
> > mail: ronstark§businesspark.com.au
> > tel: +61 (0)3 9592 6895   fax: +61 (0)3 9591 0729
> > mob: +61 (0)41 812 9922
> >
> >
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