Re: [DNS] Retention of domain name

Re: [DNS] Retention of domain name

From: Nick Andrew <nick§>
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:53:24 +1100
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 08:58:47PM +1100, Ron Stark wrote:
> Since my last posting, I have received confirmation that even under the
> current policy, if I change my company name (a fairly common occurrence, I
> should think), I actually lose my rights to my original domain name.

Imagine if T$ forced you to change your telephone number as well.
I think the above analogy correctly and succinctly sums up the issue.

> The only way I can keep the name to stop the registrar from giving what's
> indisputably mine to another entity is to register a separate business name
> or trade mark [...]

You may believe it's indisputably yours, but the policy does not
recognise that right. I think that's a flaw in the policy.

IIRC the policy under kre was that a domain, once registered,
could remain with the current owner despite the domain (or the owner)
not complying with subsequent revisions of the policy. So, to give an
example, if was registered before "no generic names" became
part of the policy, the registration would not be invalidated on the
addition of the generic names clause into the policy.

> And that too may be a problem, because I'm not sure (I stand to be corrected
> in this) that policy allows domain names to be transferred to a new owner.

They have to buy the business - or business name, assuming that is

> Either that, or I have to register a new domain name as a derivation of my
> new company name, which also may be not available, because somebody with a
> similar business name in another State may already have the domain name I
> need.  And the only reason I would need it in the first place is because I
> had to forfeit what I already rightfully owned.  Then I would have to begin
> again to build brand and market awareness.

It's a lot of rules and compliance costs to you, and a lot of
implementation costs (verification and enforcement) to the
registrar. Somebody tell me again what was so bad about "open
slather" in ?

> I am informed that the new policy will allow "close association with the
> domain name" to be a criterion to retain it [...]

That addresses one of my concerns, i.e. that prior well-established use
will be considered. Case in point, there's a certain domain ""
which is now owned by Pacific Internet (trading as Zeta, if that helps),
which was registered in 1994 or thereabouts, and which quite likely
does _not_ comply with the current rules for I would hate to
see that registration become invalid, and so would the several thousand
users who rely on it for their email address.


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