Re: [DNS] Now I am ANGRY

Re: [DNS] Now I am ANGRY

From: Marco Botros <mehanna§>
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 11:47:31 +1100
Dear All,

It is sad and is already happed with a few of My clients,
The client was decieved in paying $199 because ING
suggested that unless he renewed the domain it may
be deleted, removed and registered by somebody else.
While the above is true, the domain was registered to 
the client by us (the hosting provider) and was due 
for renewal and as such we sent the renewal notice
(price far lower than ING) for renewal at the right time!.

What I am trying to say is that I know how they do this
and I will even tell you how I found out.

Firstly, I have quietly registered a new business name with
the Fair Trading. then using my reseller account with MIT
to register the domain name.

I have not done any kind of marketing for the domain,
no search engine submissions, zero marketing, I wanted to
keep quiet about this domain for my future project.

Two month Later I recieve a letter from ING, informing me 
about the domain name , promotions and their pricing.

I know one thing now, the only source they have is the aunic
registry, as it makes all account details available to the mining party.

the ASIC registry does not provide any contact details, nor does
the ABR (Australian Business Register). The only way is aunice registry

To AuDa: Once you have blammed NetRegistry for a security breach of
the aunic data, But this data has always been available on aunic, and if
you write a script, you can drill this data for all what it has!.

AuDa, What are going to do about it???????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Marco Botros
Operations Manager
Spirit Servers

Spirit Servers, "A Solid, Reliable .dotHosting".

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Ginger Fish <ginger-fish&#167;>
To: <dns&#167;>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:20 AM
Subject: RE: [DNS] Now I am ANGRY

Way to go, Ron.
Can you believe that a few companies out there only live on stealing
renewals from other companies, and they get some decent business ...of
course without the leak(s) in the central node of the system, that would be
a bit more difficult , but still .. Of course to mask the main activity you
can always "propose new products" around , a dummy rego site with exotic
namespaces and other dummy tools that will make you "sound" like a serious
company that worries a lot about consumes well being ...shit like that ...

Ginger the Avenger

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Stark [mailto:ronstark&#167;]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 10:11 AM
To: dns&#167;
Subject: [DNS] Now I am ANGRY

There's always another one ....

Not 30 minutes ago I received a concerned phone call from one of our
clients, who had just received an unsolicited renewal notice from an outfit
DDNS (Discount Domain Name Services).   The renewal notice cites the domain
expiry date (Where DID they get the info?) in May, and is a clear attempt to
hijack one of our clients.

What REALLY makes me angry is the bold large statement on the bottom of the
renewal notice ... "We support the AUDA resellers (sic) code of conduct".

To Simon Taft, if you're reading this - YOU ARE IN CLEAR VIOLATION OF THAT
CODE OF CONDUCT, even in its current draft form.  I doubt that you even know
what it means.

You have no right to abuse or misrepresent auDA or its Code of Conduct in
this way, and your company's behaviour is totally unacceptable.  Were there
penalty provisions in place already, I would activate them against you
without any compunction or hesitation.

Ron Stark
Business Park Pty Ltd
mail: ronstark&#167;
phone: +61 (0)3 9592 6895   fax: +61 (0)3 9591 0729
mob: +61 (0)41 812 9922
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