RE: [DNS] More on the issue of reseller / registrar relationship

RE: [DNS] More on the issue of reseller / registrar relationship

From: <luci§conexim.com.au>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:51:04 +1000 (EST)
Do you mind taking this discussion to the coop list instead.


>
> Starting a reseller coop registrar solve many issues for resellars
> Each reseller will have direct input into how the registrar is managed.
> Resellar domain name costs will be cheaper. and it could extend outside
> the
> .au name space!
> No need to change registrars because price/service - the resellar has
> influenced as a coop member.
> Resellers can co-opperate to reduce costs of infrastructure for the coop
> which could then convert to lower costs for the resellar.
>
> there are many pros for this idea. far more than the cons
>
>
> <snip>
>>What I want to protect, though, is my other business income - websites,
>>hosting and other on-line services that my registrar can now decide he
> wants
>>to take away from me.  Not because he's earned the right, and not because
>>he's developed any relationship with my client or given them any service,
>>and not because he's competed fairly - he can solely because I'm
>> compelled
>>to hand over my customer to my registrar who is now my competitor.
>>
>>I fully endorse the protective measures that were put in place for
>>registrants.  I don't endorse the fact that resellers are now
>> nonentities.
>>
>>Ron Stark
>
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: John Thomson [mailto:john&#167;hep10.com]
>>Sent: Monday, 23 June 2003 3:16 PM
>>To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
>>Subject: RE: [DNS] More on the issue of reseller / registrar
>>relationship
>>
>>
>>My approach.
>>Keep in mind a lot of our business system is based on clients
>>using our CMS.
>>We don't add a mark-up to domain registration and because
>>people use our CMS
>>they really have little choice about hosting. The reasoning behind this
>>system is then if people try to match us on registration
>>pricing then we are
>>always cheaper. This way on apples vs apples we are
>>exceptional value. We
>>have had clients approached on differing web options and they
>>simply ask how
>>much to register a domain name.
>>
>>They can't directly compare us on hosting options as our CMS gives us a
>>unique point of difference. This is proving an effective deterrent to
>>competitors for us and gives clients a perception we are good value. If
>>anyone has feedback on this system I'd love to hear it.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>John
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Ian D Johnston [mailto:ian.johnston&#167;infobrokers.com.au]
>>Sent: Monday, 23 June 2003 2:54 PM
>>To: DNS
>>Cc: Ron Stark
>>Subject: RE: [DNS] More on the issue of reseller / registrar
>>relationship
>>
>>
>>Ron
>>
>>You have touched on one of a number of issues of concern to
>>resellers (I
>>presume) ... a resellers' association is an interesting
>>response.  It looks
>>as
>>though auDA might have another representative class member ;-).
>>
>>What I find missing from the auDA environment is a forum in
>>which auDA, auDA
>>Panel members, industry participants, stakeholders and
>>citizens collectively
>>*engage* one another on specific issues.  I appreciate the
>>participation of
>>a
>>small number of people on this list (who are Board members).
>>In the past
>>there
>>was talk of an auDA members' list.
>>
>>Ian Johnston
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ron Stark [mailto:ronstark&#167;snapsite.com.au]
>>> Sent: 23 June 2003 10:53 AM
>>> To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
>>> Subject: [DNS] More on the issue of reseller / registrar relationship
>>>
>>> To me the central issue is whether, as a reseller, I'm empowering a
>>> competitor to my own detriment.
>>>
>>> My customer list (as distinct from my contact list) is a key
>>asset to my
>>> business.  As a reseller of domain names I'm obligated to not only
>>disclose
>>> that list, but to entrust it to my registrar.  Having inherited my
>>customer,
>>> that registrar can then approach them with impunity, because auDA's
>>> jurisdiction does not extend beyond domain names.
>>>
>>> If my registrar offers competing services to my clients I
>>have a serious
>>> reservation in dealing with that registrar.  If a registrar
>>approaches my
>>> _potential_ customer and wins the business, that's fair
>>competition.  If
>>my
>>> registrar simply adopts my _existing_ customer and takes my business,
>>that's
>>> piracy.
>>>
>>> I know of no other commercial endeavour in which a business
>>is compelled
>>to
>>> hand over their customers to their competitors, with neither
>>protection
>>not
>>> recourse.  And here's a challenge to registrars - who will
>>give a cast
>>iron
>>> guarantee that I as a reseller am not at risk from such
>>predatory business
>>> practice.
>>>
>>> Is there anybody out there interested in establishing a Reseller's
>>> Association to restore some balance / equity in this
>>minefield of reseller
>>/
>>> registrar relationships?
>>>
>>> Ron Stark
>>> mailto:ronstark&#167;snapsite.com.au
>>>
>>>
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