RE: [DNS] More on the issue of reseller / registrar relationship

RE: [DNS] More on the issue of reseller / registrar relationship

From: Ron Stark <ronstark§snapsite.com.au>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 21:53:39 +1000
You're absolutely right.  I've subscribed to the new list that Richard
Archer has set up.  Anybody wants to join in the discussion please do so by:

To subscribe: send an empty email to:
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.. with thanks to Richard.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: luci&#167;conexim.com.au [mailto:luci§conexim.com.au]
>Sent: Monday, 23 June 2003 3:51 PM
>To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
>Subject: RE: [DNS] More on the issue of reseller / registrar
>relationship
>
>
>Do you mind taking this discussion to the coop list instead.
>
>
>>
>> Starting a reseller coop registrar solve many issues for resellars
>> Each reseller will have direct input into how the registrar
>is managed.
>> Resellar domain name costs will be cheaper. and it could
>extend outside
>> the
>> .au name space!
>> No need to change registrars because price/service - the resellar has
>> influenced as a coop member.
>> Resellers can co-opperate to reduce costs of infrastructure
>for the coop
>> which could then convert to lower costs for the resellar.
>>
>> there are many pros for this idea. far more than the cons
>>
>>
>> <snip>
>>>What I want to protect, though, is my other business income
>- websites,
>>>hosting and other on-line services that my registrar can now
>decide he
>> wants
>>>to take away from me.  Not because he's earned the right,
>and not because
>>>he's developed any relationship with my client or given them
>any service,
>>>and not because he's competed fairly - he can solely because I'm
>>> compelled
>>>to hand over my customer to my registrar who is now my competitor.
>>>
>>>I fully endorse the protective measures that were put in place for
>>>registrants.  I don't endorse the fact that resellers are now
>>> nonentities.
>>>
>>>Ron Stark
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: John Thomson [mailto:john&#167;hep10.com]
>>>Sent: Monday, 23 June 2003 3:16 PM
>>>To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
>>>Subject: RE: [DNS] More on the issue of reseller / registrar
>>>relationship
>>>
>>>
>>>My approach.
>>>Keep in mind a lot of our business system is based on clients
>>>using our CMS.
>>>We don't add a mark-up to domain registration and because
>>>people use our CMS
>>>they really have little choice about hosting. The reasoning
>behind this
>>>system is then if people try to match us on registration
>>>pricing then we are
>>>always cheaper. This way on apples vs apples we are
>>>exceptional value. We
>>>have had clients approached on differing web options and they
>>>simply ask how
>>>much to register a domain name.
>>>
>>>They can't directly compare us on hosting options as our CMS
>gives us a
>>>unique point of difference. This is proving an effective deterrent to
>>>competitors for us and gives clients a perception we are
>good value. If
>>>anyone has feedback on this system I'd love to hear it.
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Ian D Johnston [mailto:ian.johnston&#167;infobrokers.com.au]
>>>Sent: Monday, 23 June 2003 2:54 PM
>>>To: DNS
>>>Cc: Ron Stark
>>>Subject: RE: [DNS] More on the issue of reseller / registrar
>>>relationship
>>>
>>>
>>>Ron
>>>
>>>You have touched on one of a number of issues of concern to
>>>resellers (I
>>>presume) ... a resellers' association is an interesting
>>>response.  It looks
>>>as
>>>though auDA might have another representative class member ;-).
>>>
>>>What I find missing from the auDA environment is a forum in
>>>which auDA, auDA
>>>Panel members, industry participants, stakeholders and
>>>citizens collectively
>>>*engage* one another on specific issues.  I appreciate the
>>>participation of
>>>a
>>>small number of people on this list (who are Board members).
>>>In the past
>>>there
>>>was talk of an auDA members' list.
>>>
>>>Ian Johnston
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Ron Stark [mailto:ronstark&#167;snapsite.com.au]
>>>> Sent: 23 June 2003 10:53 AM
>>>> To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
>>>> Subject: [DNS] More on the issue of reseller / registrar
>relationship
>>>>
>>>> To me the central issue is whether, as a reseller, I'm empowering a
>>>> competitor to my own detriment.
>>>>
>>>> My customer list (as distinct from my contact list) is a key
>>>asset to my
>>>> business.  As a reseller of domain names I'm obligated to not only
>>>disclose
>>>> that list, but to entrust it to my registrar.  Having inherited my
>>>customer,
>>>> that registrar can then approach them with impunity, because auDA's
>>>> jurisdiction does not extend beyond domain names.
>>>>
>>>> If my registrar offers competing services to my clients I
>>>have a serious
>>>> reservation in dealing with that registrar.  If a registrar
>>>approaches my
>>>> _potential_ customer and wins the business, that's fair
>>>competition.  If
>>>my
>>>> registrar simply adopts my _existing_ customer and takes
>my business,
>>>that's
>>>> piracy.
>>>>
>>>> I know of no other commercial endeavour in which a business
>>>is compelled
>>>to
>>>> hand over their customers to their competitors, with neither
>>>protection
>>>not
>>>> recourse.  And here's a challenge to registrars - who will
>>>give a cast
>>>iron
>>>> guarantee that I as a reseller am not at risk from such
>>>predatory business
>>>> practice.
>>>>
>>>> Is there anybody out there interested in establishing a Reseller's
>>>> Association to restore some balance / equity in this
>>>minefield of reseller
>>>/
>>>> registrar relationships?
>>>>
>>>> Ron Stark
>>>> mailto:ronstark&#167;snapsite.com.au
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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