I'm not saying either of those things Ron.

I would be the last person to say we should blindly follow another 
country's policies. However, we are not talking about following one 
other country, we are talking about the fact that just about every other 
country has accepted domain speculation as a valid practice, the onus is 
therefore on those that wish it bannned to prove why it should be so, 
not on me to prove why it is ok.

The start of this topic was about the assertion by a number of people on 
this list that just because the request to make transfers easier came 
from registrars, it was evil, and that the majority of people would not 
want it.

Well, that has been proven wrong over and over again, the majority of 
people in almost all developed countries clearly do not consider the 
possibility of domain speculation a big enough issue to prohibit it.

Bennett.



Ron Stark wrote:
> Bennet, are you therefore suggesting that we in Australia should blindly
> follow what other countries have done, when demonstrably it has been fraught
> with problems, to whit cynersquatting, euphemistically called "speculation"?
> 
> Or are you implying that, because it's done in America, it's of necessity
> right?
> 
> Ron Stark
> 
> :  -----Original Message-----
> :  From: dns-bounces+ronstark=snapsite.com.au§dotau.org 
> :  [mailto:dns-bounces+ronstark=snapsite.com.au§dotau.org] On 
> :  Behalf Of Bennett Oprysa
> :  Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2005 8:06 AM
> :  To: .au DNS Discussion List
> :  Subject: Re: [DNS]Time forthe 
> :  rulestochangeregardingtransferringdomainnamelicences
> :  
> :  K Heitman & Co wrote:
> :  
> :  > Bruce. Domain name speculation is cybersquatting, it's 
> :  only the Yanks 
> :  > who have defined it in terms of trademark violation. As I've said
> :  
> :  So you acknowledge that the US courts, ie the people who 
> :  essentially run the internet, have specifically classified 
> :  domain speculation to not be cyberqsquatting, but because it 
> :  does not match your narrowminded view of life, it is 
> :  completely ignored and instead we have to go along with your 
> :  definition.
> :  
> :  Is domain speculation banned in .uk, .de, .jp, .it, .fr, 
> :  .kr, .ca ...... I am not 100% sure, but I suspect you will 
> :  find none of these have banned the practise, yet you imply 
> :  it is so evil it cannot possibly be even considered.
> :  
> :  You insist on evidence and proof. Well, please show me what 
> :  evidence you have and which the above domain spaces did not 
> :  have that proves your point?
> :  You are clearly in the extreme minority of people that think 
> :  speculation should be banned. You got away with it the first 
> :  time because the .au market was not yet commercialised and 
> :  therefore the policy panels were overly stacked with 
> :  academics, dns old timers and IP lawyers, while having very 
> :  few representatives with a commercial interest.
> :  
> :  
> :  Bennett.
> :  
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