[DNS] DNS Digest, Vol 63, Issue 7

[DNS] DNS Digest, Vol 63, Issue 7

From: Amin Kroll <amin.kroll§intaserve.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:26:49 +1100
The enforcement of Policy should not be profit or costs driven. 

 

Yes costs and resources are considered in the overall scheme, when setting
budgets etc, but auDA has a responsibility to the broad au Internet
community to provide a solid regulatory framework. There's a balance
involved. Actually if you drill deeper and speak to the staff that take the
calls, filter and enforce the policy I reckon they'd argue that the policy
enforcing staff at auDA are close to under resourced!

 

Its often easy to view auDA through the frame of a profit making
organisation and draw conclusions based on that. I know - I've done so
aswell. But the role of auDA as Policy Authority and Regulatory Provider is
on a non profit basis.

 

I guess a rough parallel for policy resolution may be the Banking Industry
Ombudsman. If you want to make a complaint about the banks you don't expect
any policy that they enforce to be based on the cost of enforcing that
policy. You just want to make sure it is the right policy to protect the
consumer or business irrespective of enforcement costs.

 

In regards to updating policy that doesn't work - that's a separate issue
and needs review. As is being done right now via the Review Panel.

 

In regards to Bretts comments on Opex - from my experience the budget items
are reviewed, and discussed before reaching majority approval from the
Board. Ok - sure agreed there's always room for tweaking here and there as
in any organisation.

 

The auCD roll up was definitely discussed in depth! and in the end auDA
feels it gained experienced and valuable staff that have already improved
communication and transparency levels (newly released activities such as
blog, newsletters, registrar visits and Australian Best Practice Awards
etc). Improved communications and openness is certainly an issue that people
have spoken to me about, and personally I'm happy to see the increased
activity, and there's more coming.

 

 

Anyway - good luck with the elections everyone I see some strong contenders
...

 

 

With Regards,

 

 

Amin Kroll

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[mailto:dns-bounces+amin.kroll=intaserve.com&#167;dotau.org] On Behalf Of David
Lye
Sent: Friday, 15 October 2010 7:10 AM
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Subject: Re: [DNS] DNS Digest, Vol 63, Issue 7

 

In an idealistic world, maybe.  

 

However in reality, money is usually the primary driver for organisations to
improve efficiencies and reduce wastage.  If you don't consider the bottom
line, it's too easy to just paper over these cracks by employing more
resources which obviously isn't the best outcome.

 

Cheers

 

David

 

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   1. Re: DNS Digest, Vol 63, Issue 5 (Adrian Kinderis)


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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:07:13 +1100
From: Adrian Kinderis <adrian&#167;ausregistry.com.au>
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Policies that don't work or are inconsistently applied should always be
reviewed when appropriate.

Reviewing them because of cost savings isn't a smart idea...

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[mailto:dns-bounces+adrian=ausregistry.com.au&#167;dotau.org] On Behalf Of David
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Think of the savings that would be made by not trying to enforce so many
subjective policies.

There are so many areas that are not clearly defined in some of these
polices (eg misspelling, monetisation to name a couple).  Grey areas
just means one party is going to always feel disgruntled and often means
the dispute is protracted.  You also get the case where people argue
relatively trivial matters as a matter of principle which is a real
time-waster

Cheers

David Lye



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   1. Re: 2010 auDA Election (Kim Davies)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:21:54 -0700
From: Kim Davies <kim&#167;cynosure.com.au>
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Subject: Re: [DNS] 2010 auDA Election
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Hi all,

I wrote:
| |     1. The  _reduction  of  domain name prices_ ??? by reducing
auDA???s fee to
| |        Registrars;
|
| What impact would this have on auDA's programmes, budget or
| expenditure? Are there specific services auDA performs that should be
reduced to accommodate this?
| ...

I have received a number of responses to this email, all off list - not
from the candidate but from other members. It is a shame there is no
open discussion about these kind of issues, because I think it is useful
to discuss the future of .au and how it can improve. That is why this
list was created.

However, one person took exception and thinks that I shared privileged
conversations that should be kept private. Their view is that candidates
should not have to answer questions from members, and that the material
they spam to members to ask them to elect them are confidential
communications.

What kind of accountability is this? I am dumbfounded.

kim


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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 14:56:27 +1100
From: Brett Fenton <brett.fenton&#167;netregistry.com.au>
To: dns&#167;dotau.org
Subject: Re: [DNS] 2010 auDA Election
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Hi Kim,

I don't have an opinion on the discuss/not discuss view and the
publication of an email, if Erhan is okay with it being discussed in
public then that would be good enough for me.

I would make some comment on reduction on costs / opex however whether
that spurs discussion or not.

In my own personal view (and I'm speaking as an individual not in my
capacity of working in a Registrar), I think the travel line in the auDA
budgets is not only excessive it's obscene.

auDA while I was on the board made a commitment that if auCD wasn't
financially viable after the initial cash injection from the generic
domain auctions, that the program would be rolled up. Well the money is
exhausted and all that's happened is that auDA have absorbed the ongoing
costs and it's business as usual.

To an outside observer there seems to be no competive tender process to
auDA for the provision of ongoing contract services, legals as one
example.

I certainly think that the board as part of their corporate governance
should be looking at the entire opex budget for auDA regardless of
whether this ultimately lowers domain pricing or not.

Though on the issue of domain pricing it is my understanding that each
registration now contributes 25c to the auDA foundation. Which I think
in and of itself is scandalous.

I would welcome some healthy community debate around these and any other
items, whether you happen to agree with my particular point of view or
not.

Regards,
Brett Fenton.




> Hi all,
>
> I wrote:
> | |     1. The  _reduction  of  domain name prices_ ??? by reducing
> | |     auDA???s fee to
> | |    
> | |        Registrars;
> |
> | What impact would this have on auDA's programmes, budget or
expenditure?
> | Are there specific services auDA performs that should be reduced to
> | accommodate this? ...
>
> I have received a number of responses to this email, all off list -
not
> from the candidate but from other members. It is a shame there is no
open
> discussion about these kind of issues, because I think it is useful to
> discuss the future of .au and how it can improve. That is why this
list
> was created.
>
> However, one person took exception and thinks that I shared privileged
> conversations that should be kept private. Their view is that
candidates
> should not have to answer questions from members, and that the
material
> they spam to members to ask them to elect them are confidential
> communications.
>
> What kind of accountability is this? I am dumbfounded.
>
> kim
>
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