Dassa

>I still feel
>maintaining two lists, one public and one closed, would serve the
>Australian .au name space far more.

I think I now agree with you on this one.  Your other comments are also
well made.  I guess I'm really more interested in raising the issue of broadening
the membership base than in closing out non-members, as such...

regards
jon

>-- Original Message --
>Reply-To: dns§lists.auda.org.au
>From: "Dassa" <dassa&#167;dhs.org>
>To: <dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au>
>Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:24:37 +1100
>Subject: RE: [DNS] DNS List
>
>
>|> -----Original Message-----
>|> From: Jon Lawrence [mailto:jon&#167;jonlawrence.com] 
>|> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:07 AM
>|> To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
>|> Subject: RE: [DNS] DNS List
>|> 
>|> 
>Hello Jon
>|> 
>|> I just don't see why auDA directors and staff should have to spend
>time
>|> and effort administering a mailing list that includes people that are
>unwilling
>|> to be financial members of the organisation.  Presumably people could
>be
>|> admitted to the mailing list as soon as their membership applications
>were
>|> received to avoid any undue delay.
>
>It may be we have different opinions on what is required to maintain a
>mailing list.  My company runs a number of them and has done for a few
>years, we have never found mailing list administration to be resource
>hungry.  The effort required to maintain this list is far outweighed by
>the public face it presents and the opportunity for the public to become
>more aware of AuDA and .au name space issues.  Although as you suggest
>allowing potential members posting rights whilst awaiting membership
>approval may solve one problem with the idea of a closed list, it does
>open the door to abusive use of the privilege.   I still feel
>maintaining two lists, one public and one closed, would serve the
>Australian .au name space far more.
>
>|> I feel very strongly that the success of auDA is dependent on it
>having
>|> a broad membership base.  I probably don't even really need to
>mention the
>|> glaring example that is ICANN of what can happen to an organisation
>without
>|> an effective or broad membership base...I think this is one of many
>ways
>|> in which to create real incentives to people to join to increase that
>membership
>|> base.
>
>I too would say AuDA requires a broad membership base, however, I do
>feel limiting public participation is going to assist that.  I suggest
>that more outreach is required, not limiting it.  The incentive to join
>as you suggest could be achieved by adding a restricted membership list.
>One where the Directors and staff would feel comfortable with
>participating.  It does not require the closing or restructuring of this
>public list to have the outcome you desire.
>
>|> There are currently 152 members listed at auda.org.au.  This list has
>311
>|> subscribers.  
>
>It would certainly appear AuDA requires to do some substantial work in
>recruiting wider participation.  There needs to be more awareness raised
>in the community about the efforts undertaken and the benefits
>participation may achieve for the name space.  I feel closing a public
>list would not achieve the desired outcome.  If any of the 311
>subscribers to this list wished to join AuDa, they would already have
>applied.  I have.  I think closing the list would only serve to isolate
>AuDa more.
>
>Darryl (Dassa) Lynch.
>
>
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