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> From: ian§bluedoor [mailto:auda206§bluedoor.com.au] 
> Sent: Friday, 25 March 2005 8:22
> To: dns§dotau.org
> Subject: Re: [DNS] Searcher twists name rules
> 
> 
> 
> On Friday, March 25, 2005, at 01:17 AM, Larry Bloch wrote:
> 
> > What I think Vic is articulating (and if so I agree) is 
> that we have 
> > to ensure policy serves the customer, not what armchair enthusiasts 
> > think customers want. From the front line, what we see is that:
> 
> What are armchair enthusiasts?

Errr....everybody on this list for starters?

> 
> 
> >  - registrants don't understand the restrictions placed on 
> them by the
> > policy
> 
> I think the australian public is quite aware of the 
> restrictions placed 
> on them. In fact many are unaware of how loose the policy is. I 
> personally can't see the difficulty of the "close and substantial" 
> clause. Just because a user wants a name it does not mean they should 
> automatically be entitled to it.

I suppose I meant 'understand' in the context of a sanity or reasonableness
test. Yes they understand what is required of them, but largely they fail to
understand why. It's subjective - just my call, not fact.

> 
> for example I want parishilton.com.au. The policy states I need a 
> reason as far as I am aware this is how it goes
> 1. I am paris hilton - accepted
> 2. I sell paris hilton videos - accepted
> 3. I want to run a site about paris hilton - denied/accepted 
> (this one 
> I am not sure about perhaps someone can explain)
> 4. I want to sit on the domain and sell it later - denied
> 
> What is so difficult about that. If you "want" a name you must have a 
> reason so state it. Simple!
> 
> Without the clause you are inviting speculators/squatters to step in. 
> Unfortunately as everyone states the horse has bolted, 
> however this is 
> partially due to registrars "bending" the registration rules in an 
> attempt to grab their market share as well as auda's unwillingness to 
> enforce it's own policies. Little self-governing going on there.


There are other mechanisms to deal with intellectual property right
infringements. Its not the role of policy or a regulator to make the call -
particularly as there is an entire spectrum of what is acceptable and what
is not. I agree its not black and white - it's a controversial issue and a
balance is needed - I think the balance is currently too restrictive and
would like to see the scales tipped a little towards openess (which to be
fair is exactly what is happening over time - just a little to slowly for my
preference).

> 
> >  - they want names to be registered in real time
> 
> No I believe the registrars prefer real time registrations as this 
> requires as little man power as possible. The more automated the 
> cheaper it gets. Automation can't happen with multiple variables like 
> "reasons" involved. The policy was sound, after all why have 
> a panel to 
> evaluate it in the first place, however as stated the 
> registrars pushed 
> for real time registrations which was the beginning of the 
> "loop holes".

If I buy something online, I want to know if I have it within seconds of
pushing "submit"

> 
> >  - they see the policy as useless red tape for no practical benefit
> 
> Aren't all policies :)
> 
> >  - they want to be able to sell their names
> 
> Apparently  you can already? It seems that "where there's a will 
> there's a way". Also registrars don't seem to make the process too 
> complicated. 
> https://www.enetica.com.au/register.cgi?action=reg_transfer
> 
> Ian


The joys of a free society?

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