I wonder if that includes Fabulous' (Australian company) 500,000+ monetisation domain names?

http://www.fabulous.com/informationcenter/index.htm?formdata%5Bqid%5D=668

" ... Who are FabulousDomains?

FabulousDomains is a wholly owned subsidiary of Dark Blue Sea Pty Ltd, an Internet Company specializing in Domain Names and Direct Navigation.

FabulousDomains has a searchable catalog of over 500,000 descriptive premium domains waiting to be used for your marketing needs.

... "

Regarding my opinion on opening up .au - I am yet to hear a balanced factual argument that convinces me that it's good or bad thing to do.  I would like to understand the facts though.


Josh
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On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 11:18:32PM +1000, Larry Bloch wrote:
> http://www.webhosting.info/registries/country_stats/AU
> 
> Obviously not all of them. Not even half.
> 
> Sorry, my number was wrong, its 1,335,361
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dns-bounces+larry.bloch=netregistry.com.au§dotau.org
> [mailto:dns-bounces+larry.bloch=netregistry.com.au§dotau.org] On Behalf Of
> Ron Stark
> Sent: Thursday, 8 June 2006 9:55
> To: '.au DNS Discussion List'
> Subject: Re: [DNS] Domain dispute heats up
> 
> 
> Assuming that's a real figure (where does your number come from?) the next
> question is how many of those also have a .com.au equivalent?
> 
> Ron
> 
> 
> : -----Original Message-----
> : From: dns-bounces+ronstark=snapsite.com.au§dotau.org 
> : [mailto:dns-bounces+ronstark=snapsite.com.au§dotau.org] On 
> : Behalf Of Larry Bloch
> : Sent: Thursday, 8 June 2006 21:28
> : To: '.au DNS Discussion List'
> : Subject: Re: [DNS] Domain dispute heats up
> : 
> : 1.2m domain names registered to registrants with Australian 
> : addresses in .com, net, org, info, biz
> : 
> : -----Original Message-----
> : From: dns-bounces+larry.bloch=netregistry.com.au§dotau.org
> : [mailto:dns-bounces+larry.bloch=netregistry.com.au§dotau.org] 
> : On Behalf Of Ron Stark
> : Sent: Thursday, 8 June 2006 9:15
> : To: '.au DNS Discussion List'
> : Subject: Re: [DNS] Domain dispute heats up
> : 
> : 
> : There are some 1.2M businesses in Australia.  Simple 
> : arithmetic suggests that there's a 50% penetration of domain names.
> : 
> : But it's not simple arithmetic.  For example, there are 540 
> : 000 ABNs per year registered, all of whom qualify for a 
> : .com.au domain name in terms of existing regulations.  Now 
> : the question is - are those without domain names 
> : "disenfranchised" or are they simply "disinterested".  I 
> : suggest the latter.
> : 
> : If .com.au regulations were the inhibitor, then there would 
> : be many more .com's registered to Australian businesses than 
> : .com.au's.  Does anybody have that stat?  In any case, 
> : judging by the number of my clients that receive 
> : solicitations for the .com equivalent of their existing 
> : .com.au domain, businesses are choosing .com.au over its .com 
> : equivalent.
> : 
> : I make a simple recommendation to my clients.  If it's an 
> : Australian business with an Australian clientele, go for a 
> : .com.au.  It's all about business branding, not about domain 
> : pricing or regulations.  Nobody registers a domain name 
> : simply because it's there.  They register a domain name 
> : because it offers some tangible value or underpins other 
> : business objectives, be they brand protection, website or 
> : email addresses.
> : 
> : Many, and I suggest the vast majority of ABN registrants have 
> : no use whatsoever for a domain name, let alone other services 
> : that derive from it.
> : Which brings us back to the 1.2M businesses.  And the 600 000 
> : domain names.
> : Consumers already have a choice - and they're choosing to not 
> : have domain names.  Period.
> : 
> : Ron Stark
> : 
> : 
> : 
> : : -----Original Message-----
> : : From: dns-bounces+ronstark=snapsite.com.au§dotau.org
> : : [mailto:dns-bounces+ronstark=snapsite.com.au§dotau.org] On
> : : Behalf Of Vic Cinc
> : : Sent: Thursday, 8 June 2006 20:49
> : : To: .au DNS Discussion List
> : : Subject: Re: [DNS] Domain dispute heats up
> : : 
> : : Darryl (Dassa) Lynch [dassa§dhs.org] wrote:
> : : >
> : : > That is the only question suppliers are interested in, and
> : : of course,
> : : > if they can profit by meeting that demand.  AuDA and policy is not
> : : > interested in the profit and demand is qualified by the 
> : benefits or
> : : > negative impact meeting the demand may introduce.  Issues
> : : which suppliers don't care much about.
> : : 
> : : nobody has come up with a single negative impact yet. yet we
> : : clearly have a very large disenfranchised community out there.
> : : 
> : : > Vic has been tossing a figure of 1 million as wanting to
> : : open up the
> : : > namespace, personally I don't give that figure much weight
> : : as I don't
> : : > know how it was derived and I suspect it isn't a true 
> : indication.  
> : : > Even if accepted it means there are another 39 million people to
> : : > consider at a minimum before policy is changed.
> : : 
> : : its actually a very conservative estimate. pick an open name
> : : space of an equivalent country compare the domains per capita
> : : to australia and then come back and tell me why .au sells so
> : : little and what your justification is for disenfranchising
> : : these people.
> : : 
> : : .au is for all australians, not just those some feel are worthy.
> : : 
> : : Vic
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