I said "brand", not "trademark".


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From: dns-bounces+ronstark=snapsite.com.au§dotau.org
[mailto:dns-bounces+ronstark=snapsite.com.au§dotau.org] On Behalf Of
info§enigmaticminds.com.au
Sent: Friday, 29 June 2007 14:07
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Subject: Re: [DNS] Australia registers more .au than .com domains


I find that very hard to believe, have you registered a trademark in 20
different classes?

Most companies would only need to register 1 domain name.

The more specific the domain name is, the less it can be abused, the fewer
conflicts there are and the less lawyers need to be involved.


Ron Stark wrote: 

OK.  So I'd only need to register 20 domain names instead of 37 to cover my
interests.  My argument however remains.
 
But wouldn't the lawyers have a field day ............


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From: dns-bounces+ronstark=snapsite.com.au§dotau.org
[mailto:dns-bounces+ronstark=snapsite.com.au§dotau.org] On Behalf Of
info§enigmaticminds.com.au
Sent: Friday, 29 June 2007 13:50
To: .au DNS Discussion List
Subject: Re: [DNS] Australia registers more .au than .com domains


The name.industry.au model does not in anyway remove the eligibility
requirements of the .au namespace. As such, microsoft.cobbler.au or
cocacola.plumbing.au could not be registered unless the eligibility criteria
was met.

Further to this, such a model would reduce fraud and issues like phising, as
only genuine banks could register .bank.au

In the Bulgarian example, as the 2LD is generic, to fully protect a brand
you would have to register it using all of the possible extensions. However,
using the name.industry.au model, as the 2LD is specific, the reverse is
true, you only need to register the domain for the industries in which you
trade - i.e. Microsoft, CocaCola etc. would never need to register a
.bank.au or .plumbing.au extension, etc.



Ron Stark wrote: 

Extrapolating your suggestion, and the Bulgarian example from Josh, there
are two probable consequences:
 
- Registrars (and, by definition, Registries) would enjoy another bonanza as
businesses rushed to protect their brands (or predators rushed to grab
unprotected brands).
 
- The value and relevance of a domain name as a brand protection device
would diminish.
 
Using Bulgaria as an example: if I wanted to protect the brand of a new
business I'd need to register 37 domain names all at once.  It would be far
cheaper to have a single 2LD and increase the price of a domain name by
2000%.  And how would MS or Coke respond if I wanted to register
Microsoft.cobbler.au or coca cola.plumbing.au, given that this suggested
model would allow me to do so?
 
Ron Stark


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From: dns-bounces+ronstark=snapsite.com.au§dotau.org
[mailto:dns-bounces+ronstark=snapsite.com.au§dotau.org] On Behalf Of
info§enigmaticminds.com.au
Sent: Friday, 29 June 2007 12:24
To: .au DNS Discussion List
Subject: Re: [DNS] Australia registers more .au than .com domains


To point things in a completely different direction, rather than moving to
the model of direct registration of .au domains, which in effect closes the
.au namespace to any further 2LDs, I think it makes far more sense to open
the .au namespace up even further by introducing more 2LDs.

For example, a model based on industry classification - i.e.
name.industry.au

For example:
- anz.bank.au
- abc.tv.au
- mmm.radio.au
- bigpond.isp.au
- telstra.tel.au / telstra.telco.au
- johns.plumbing.au

The greater the number of 2LDs and the more specific they are, the more open
the .au namespace is, the greater the room to grow and more importantly, the
fewer IP issues and domain conflicts. There is no conflict between
xyz.bank.au and xyz.plumbing.au but there is when both want xyz.com.au

Andrew


Josh Rowe wrote: 

On Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 05:58:30PM -0700, David Goldstein wrote:



  

Australia has one of the highest (maybe .ca is higher) registrations of .com
domains in the world per capita. What are the reasons for this? I assume
there are several, but it could be there are some reasons that have had more
of an impact.

    



Here are statistics based on the top ten countries who register .com domain
names:



Country		.COM per capita

-------		---------------

Hong Kong	20.34%

United States	12.94%

Australia	 6.20%

Canada		 6.12%

United Kingdom	 3.74%

Germany		 3.45%

France		 2.00%

Spain		 1.58%

Japan		 0.56%

China		 0.15%



Country		ccTLD per capita

-------		----------------

Germany		13.36%

United Kingdom	 9.90%

Australia	 4.28%

Canada		 2.58%

Hong Kong	 1.93%

France		 1.31%

Spain		 1.27%

Japan		 0.72%

United States	 0.41%

China		 0.14%



These statistics will be in the next version of my paper together with the
sources I used.



If anyone else has any further empirical evidence for or against opening up
.au then please share it with me.





Josh

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