Re: [DNS] reply to Spring Clean comments

Re: [DNS] reply to Spring Clean comments

From: Matthew King <mking§>
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:06:44 +1000
In answer to a mail recieved from David Keegel re a pending domain

>] I have a client that is well respected in its field, has been opperating
>] for twenty years and has activities identical to other bodies with an
>] domains. However it seems to have been swept under this "carpet".
>Can you tell me (or even better the dns list) who this client is,
>so that we can make up our own minds?

Here is an application for an domain that has been swept under the
carpet (i.e. ignored) because it is not educational enough.........

CASE STUDY as follows:

The domain we are seeking is This is for the Australian
Christian Forum on Education Incorporated (ACFE).

It is my the second attempt at getting an domain. We initially
wanted to get which is based on the name of ACFE's main
journal (Journal of Christian Education) but as you might have guessed this
was rejected.

The publisher of the Journal of Christian Education (JCE) is the Australian
Christian Forum on Education Incorporated (ACFE). This is an educational
institution which conducts conferences, seminars and public meetings on
educational issues. It also publishes books and papers on educational
topics as well as the JCE.
The Journal of Christian Education is a refereed academic international
journal devoted to the examination of the application of Christian
principles to the whole field of education. Its subscribers are libraries
of universities and colleges as well as individual educators in some 20
countries around the world.
In these ways the ACFE has similarities to institutions like the Australian
College of Education.

I may add that it undertakes activities very similar to other existing sites ie. in particular the Australian Science Teachers Association.

In regards to its educational credentials please visit its beta site at and have a look at the qualifications
of its editors and editorial board. For those that could not be bothered
here is a little list.


* Dr Allan Harkness, M.A., B.D., Ph.D.,Lecturer, Trinity Theological College.
* Anna C. Hogg, B.A., E.Ed., Ph.D., F.A.C.E. Formerly Head, Department of
Sydney Teachers' College, N.S.W., Australia
* Brian V. Hill M.A., B.Ed., Ph.D., F.A.C.E., Professor of Education,
Murdoch University, W.A., Australia

Editorial Board

* TREVOR COOLING, B.A., Dip.Th., M.A., Ph.D., Projects Officer, Stapleford
House Education
Centre, Nottingham, England.
* ALLAN K. BEAVIS, B.Sc, Dip.Ed., M.Ed.Admin, Ph.D., M.A.C.E., Master, New
College, The University of New South Wales, Sydney
* CYNTHIA DIXON, M.A., M.Ed., Dip. Ed., Dip R.E., Ph.D. Honorary Senior
Fellow, Edith Cowan University, W.A
* H.J. FALLDING, M.A., B.S., Dip.Ed., Ph.D., F.R.S.C., Distinguished
Professor Emeritus of
Sociology, University of Waterloo, Canada.
* JOHN W. HARRIS, B.A., M.Ed., Ph.D., Th.D., Director, Translations and
Text Division, Bible
Society in Australia, Canberra.
* A.A. HUKINS, M.Sc., Dip.Ed., Ph.D., F.A.C.E., Emeritus Professor of
Education, University of New South Wales.
* RODERIC KEFFORD, B.A., M.A., Dip.Ed., M.Ed.Admin., Ph.D., F.A.C.E.,
Headmaster, Barker College, Sydney.
* A.D. McCARTHY, B.A., B.D., M.Ed., Th.L., M.A.C.E., Senior Education
Officer, Open Training & Education Network, NSW TAFE Commission, Sydney.
* B. McGAW, B.Sc., M.Ed., Ph.D., F.A.C.E., F.A.S.S.A., Deputy
Director(Education), Directorate of Education, Employment, Labour and
Social Affairs, Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development,
* EVELINA ORTEZA Y. MIRANDA, B.S.E., M.A., Ed.D., Professor of Education,
University of
Calgary, Canada. N.L. WIGNEY, M.A., B.Ed., M.A.C.E., Languages Coordinator
Emeritus, Barker College, Sydney, N.S.W.
* RICHARD L. WILKINS, B.D., General Secretary, Association of Christian
Teachers, England.  (Please keep in mind the site is still a little rough)

Several points:

* So why has this application been swept under the carpet? If this
organisation is not educational enough then the rules should be clearly
* What appeal do I have if it is rejected again? Answer none. (We would
still like the first one by the way)
* Why should one person in this day and age dictate the application of
abitary rulings. (check the definition of tyranny) At least if a group of
elected peers said no I would have the chance to lobby and if I wanted  to
take it further try to elect someone who supported my views.
* The people who run the current system have done a good job over time. But
the internet is changing and adapting. The rules should too.

Matthew King
Received on Tue Aug 24 1999 - 17:06:37 UTC

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