Re: [DNS] Why have a policy?

Re: [DNS] Why have a policy?

From: Bennett Oprysa <bennett§enetica.com.au>
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 15:17:08 +1000
Bill,

all applications are viewed and manually approved by our staff, they 
check that the contact details are plausible and that the ABN/ACN etc 
are correct. If the claim is  an exact match/abbreviation, this is also 
checked, but if the claim is close and substantial, there is a basic 
'reasonableness test' for the domain, but since we don't ask for a 
reason, there is nothing to check in that way.

Again, you are missing the point, even the examples you have listed 
below are not names we could reject just because they are suspicious. In 
the early days of the new regime, we did in fact follow up any 
suspicious names, in almost all cases people found a way to justify 
their claim, it really is not that hard. We no longer bother as it 
serves no purpose other than increasing the cost of the service.

I would not want to see a situation where domains required extra 
checking by auDA etc before being approved, but I'd have no problem with 
auDA allocating a person to investigate such domains after they were 
registered. It would be a tiny cost in a $3mil/year budget, but as I 
have already outlined, there simply are not that many domains that can 
be shown to be registered without basis.

Bennett.




Bill wrote:

> Bennett,
> 
> Can you confirm that all domain application made under
> the "close and substantial" clause are "vetted" by a
> human at enetica. I do agree with you that legitimate
> reasons should not be objected to I just wanted to
> check that someone is actually reading these reasons
> before approval.
> 
> I cannot see how names such as goog.com.au,
> googe.com.au and yahho.com.au cannot be found to be
> suspicious and that auda was not contacted for
> verification.
> 
> While i can understand the wishes of consumers for
> instant approvals, I cannot see why there cannot be
> put in place mechanisms where the domain is put on
> hold at the registry end until proper approval has
> been given for cases like these. Also with the excess
> funds that auDa seems to collecting they do not
> allocate a person to deal with cases such as these as
> I am sure with the relaxing of policy more
> questionable registrations will occur.
> 
> Bill
> 
> --- Bennett Oprysa <bennett&#167;enetica.com.au> wrote:
> 
>>Hi,
>>
>>can you explain on what grounds a registrar would
>>reject such an 
>>application?
>>
>>There are numerous reasons why it could be perfectly
>>feasible, eg
>>applicant provides support/advice specific to
>>msnmessenger
>>applicant sells addons for msnmessenger
>>applicant has their own product called msnmessenger
>>or something similar
>>
>>all of the above are without question appropriate
>>reasons for 
>>registering the domain, for all we know the
>>registrant may well fit one 
>>of the above when applying for a domain. Do you
>>expect registrars to do 
>>a site visit and conduct interviews with the
>>employees of the company to 
>>make sure their claim is true for every application?
>>
>>If the registrant has made a false warranty they
>>risk losing the domain. 
>>If they have also missused a trademark belonging to
>>a multinational, 
>>they also face the risk of incurring considerable
>>legal costs when the 
>>lawyers descend upon them.
>>
>>As far as registrars being too lenient, the simple
>>fact is that the 
>>number of registrations cancelled by auDA due to
>>people having made 
>>false warranties can be counted on one hand last
>>time I checked.
>>
>>Bennett.
>>
>>
>>Tony Owen wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>auDA is not run by registrars. It should be - if
>>
>>it was, policy would be
>>
>>>>objective and automatic, names would be cheaper
>>
>>and overall a far more
>>
>>>>rational and market driven system would pertain.
>>>
>>>
>>>I probably am not up on all the facts but ...
>>>
>>>If we are paying more for a name because a human
>>
>>"vets" names to avoid 
>>
>>>obvious shams, how the heck could
>>>msnmessenger.com.au get through? or any of the
>>
>>other blatant trademark 
>>
>>>ripoffs?
>>>
>>>Cheers Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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