[DNS] Australia registers more .au than .com domains

[DNS] Australia registers more .au than .com domains

From: Ron Stark <ronstark§snapsite.com.au>
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 12:26:25 +1000
So use "IT" as an example.  Or "trades", "business" or any of a multitude of
others that aren't specifically covered by legislation.  My point is that
under the current rules, a close or substantial connection is sufficient
qualification.  I don't need a trademark, and I don't need a registered
business - an ABN will suffice.  Is it perhaps suggested that each different
2LD has a unique set of rules and policies?  Or is it proposed to modify the
existing rules?
I can see it all now.  The clarity of www.it.trades.au and www.trades.it.au,
to go along with www.ittrades.com.au and www.tradesit.com.au.
The notion that the term "bank" is covered by legislation is farcical, given
that bank.com.au is registered to Internet Product Sales and Services Pty
Ltd, banks.com.au is owned by Aussie Destinations (1) Pty Ltd, both of which
resolve to the same website.
The argument was put forward that coke, for example, would prefer to use
coke.com.  Using the argument that the registrant must be operating within
the industry, then a bank who wants to increase their visibility in search
engines could rightfully register coke.bank.au, a plumber coke.plumbers.au,
whilst Coca Cola would be denied that right.
Wow!  There's a great brand enhancement strategy.
I fail to see how simply contriving additional 2LDs resolves minor problems
that now exist.  Instead, I can see it introducing more problems of greater
magnitude and complexity.
Ron Stark


From: dns-bounces+ronstark=snapsite.com.au&#167;dotau.org
[mailto:dns-bounces+ronstark=snapsite.com.au&#167;dotau.org] On Behalf Of
Sent: Saturday, 30 June 2007 21:23
To: .au DNS Discussion List
Subject: Re: [DNS] Australia registers more .au than .com domains

A self managed super fund is not a bank, I would have thought that was
pretty obvious.

In a similar manner a podcast does not make you a radio station (.radio.au),
uploading youtube viedos does not make you a tv station (.tv.au), etc.

If you're not legitimately in the industry, you wouldn't be eligible to
register the domain name, just like you can't register .gov.au or .edu.au

Ron Stark wrote: 

OK.  So IBM, BP, Price Waterhouse Coopers and little old me run a credit
union for my staff.  Woo Hoo - I can register snapsite.bank, then.
Josh (sorry Josh :-)) possibly runs his own self-managed super fund.  So he
gets josh.bank.au.  Real clear and easy to administer ...........


From: dns-bounces+ronstark=snapsite.com.au&#167;dotau.org
[mailto:dns-bounces+ronstark=snapsite.com.au&#167;dotau.org] On Behalf Of
Sent: Saturday, 30 June 2007 17:36
To: .au DNS Discussion List
Subject: Re: [DNS] Australia registers more .au than .com domains

I totally agree with Edwin.

Further to this, I have always said that with industry specific domains, you
must be within that industry. Therefore only a bank could register a domain
using the .bank.au extension.

This already applies for domain extensions such as .gov.au and .edu.au, so
this concept is nothing new. In effect, the .gov.au and .edu.au domains are
examples of industry specific domains. Do you see any untoward activities in
these namespaces? Any phising? Any cyber-squatting or domain speculation?

As for conflicts, there's would be far fewer as it is limited to each
industry. For example only plumbers of the name Joe would be interested in
joes.plumbing.au whereas every Joe from every industry would be interested
in joe.com.au.

Edwin Groothuis wrote: 

On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 04:52:13PM +1000, Ron Stark wrote:


I can think of a mere handful of bank.au domains - anz, cba, commonwealth,

qld, westpac, boq, queensland, suncorp, bendigo, city, citi and so on.  Then


Plus hundreds of credit unions?


come the grey areas over which disputes would inevitably arise from each of

the competing "legitimate" registrants:  lending.bank.au, finance.bank.au,

cheap.bank.au, friendly.bank.au, local.bank.au, regional.bank.au,

credit.bank.au, community.bank.au, farmers.bank.au, your.bank.au,

online.bank.au, internet.bank.au and a whole lot of others.


The policy of the bank.com.au, just like the policy of the .museum

and .areo, will probably prevent you (and everybody else) from

regestrering them.


But wait ... there's more!  I do newsletters for a certain bank as part of

my business.  I then qualify to register newsletter.bank.au, because there's

already a close or substantial connection.  I also resell domain names

therefore I qualify for domains.bank.au.  Oh - websites, too, which gives me


These too.





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