[DNS] Australia registers more .au than .com domains

[DNS] Australia registers more .au than .com domains

From: Sean K. Finn <Sean.Finn§ozservers.com.au>
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 13:21:29 +1000
I think that before adding any new extensions or changing the namespace
in such a major way, a VOTE should be conducted, from the current
registrant contact of all .au domain name holders.


Only then can  a true representation of what CURRENT .au holders want.


AuDA sends out emails whenever a domain name is registered, it should be
within its scope to at least conduct a survey annually or biannually.


Generally, the old saying 'Dont fix it if it aint broken' comes to mind.


.au is functioning, there's no MAJOR problems at the moment, so why
change it if there are no problems to be solved or advantages (beside a
select few cashing in, aka corruption slash CONFLICT OF INTERESTS).


If there ARE advantages to be had, sure, but if theres no problems to be
solved or advantages to be gained, why is this discussion even on the


Have we all been that bored in the last few years that we are making up
ways to change .au just so we have something to do in our mundane boring




From: dns-bounces+sean.finn=ozservers.com.au&#167;dotau.org
[mailto:dns-bounces+sean.finn=ozservers.com.au&#167;dotau.org] On Behalf Of
Ron Stark
Sent: Sunday, 1 July 2007 12:26 PM
To: '.au DNS Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [DNS] Australia registers more .au than .com domains


So use "IT" as an example.  Or "trades", "business" or any of a
multitude of others that aren't specifically covered by legislation.  My
point is that under the current rules, a close or substantial connection
is sufficient qualification.  I don't need a trademark, and I don't need
a registered business - an ABN will suffice.  Is it perhaps suggested
that each different 2LD has a unique set of rules and policies?  Or is
it proposed to modify the existing rules?


I can see it all now.  The clarity of www.it.trades.au and
www.trades.it.au, to go along with www.ittrades.com.au and


The notion that the term "bank" is covered by legislation is farcical,
given that bank.com.au is registered to Internet Product Sales and
Services Pty Ltd, banks.com.au is owned by Aussie Destinations (1) Pty
Ltd, both of which resolve to the same website.


The argument was put forward that coke, for example, would prefer to use
coke.com.  Using the argument that the registrant must be operating
within the industry, then a bank who wants to increase their visibility
in search engines could rightfully register coke.bank.au, a plumber
coke.plumbers.au, whilst Coca Cola would be denied that right.


Wow!  There's a great brand enhancement strategy.


I fail to see how simply contriving additional 2LDs resolves minor
problems that now exist.  Instead, I can see it introducing more
problems of greater magnitude and complexity.


Ron Stark



	From: dns-bounces+ronstark=snapsite.com.au&#167;dotau.org
[mailto:dns-bounces+ronstark=snapsite.com.au&#167;dotau.org] On Behalf Of
	Sent: Saturday, 30 June 2007 21:23
	To: .au DNS Discussion List
	Subject: Re: [DNS] Australia registers more .au than .com

	A self managed super fund is not a bank, I would have thought
that was pretty obvious.
	In a similar manner a podcast does not make you a radio station
(.radio.au), uploading youtube viedos does not make you a tv station
(.tv.au), etc.
	If you're not legitimately in the industry, you wouldn't be
eligible to register the domain name, just like you can't register
.gov.au or .edu.au
	Ron Stark wrote: 

	OK.  So IBM, BP, Price Waterhouse Coopers and little old me run
a credit union for my staff.  Woo Hoo - I can register snapsite.bank,


	Josh (sorry Josh :-)) possibly runs his own self-managed super
fund.  So he gets josh.bank.au.  Real clear and easy to administer



		From: dns-bounces+ronstark=snapsite.com.au&#167;dotau.org
[mailto:dns-bounces+ronstark=snapsite.com.au&#167;dotau.org] On Behalf Of
		Sent: Saturday, 30 June 2007 17:36
		To: .au DNS Discussion List
		Subject: Re: [DNS] Australia registers more .au than
.com domains

		I totally agree with Edwin.
		Further to this, I have always said that with industry
specific domains, you must be within that industry. Therefore only a
bank could register a domain using the .bank.au extension.
		This already applies for domain extensions such as
.gov.au and .edu.au, so this concept is nothing new. In effect, the
.gov.au and .edu.au domains are examples of industry specific domains.
Do you see any untoward activities in these namespaces? Any phising? Any
cyber-squatting or domain speculation?
		As for conflicts, there's would be far fewer as it is
limited to each industry. For example only plumbers of the name Joe
would be interested in joes.plumbing.au whereas every Joe from every
industry would be interested in joe.com.au.
		Edwin Groothuis wrote: 

		On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 04:52:13PM +1000, Ron Stark

			I can think of a mere handful of bank.au domains
- anz, cba, commonwealth,
			qld, westpac, boq, queensland, suncorp, bendigo,
city, citi and so on.  Then

		Plus hundreds of credit unions?

			come the grey areas over which disputes would
inevitably arise from each of
			the competing "legitimate" registrants:
lending.bank.au, finance.bank.au,
			cheap.bank.au, friendly.bank.au, local.bank.au,
			credit.bank.au, community.bank.au,
farmers.bank.au, your.bank.au,
			online.bank.au, internet.bank.au and a whole lot
of others.

		The policy of the bank.com.au, just like the policy of
the .museum
		and .areo, will probably prevent you (and everybody
else) from
		regestrering them.

			But wait ... there's more!  I do newsletters for
a certain bank as part of
			my business.  I then qualify to register
newsletter.bank.au, because there's
			already a close or substantial connection.  I
also resell domain names
			therefore I qualify for domains.bank.au.  Oh -
websites, too, which gives me

		These too.


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